Rosie Winterton: Other countries often look to our welfare state for inspiration, because it has lead the way in providing a crucial safety net for many vulnerable people. We look to other countries to see whether changes have been made that could help to simplify our system. On welfare-to-work benefits, for example, we have considered whether there are simpler systems in other countries.
	I want to deal with a number of points raised, staring with the so-called 10 per cent. rule, which was raised by the hon. Member for Edinburgh, West (John Barrett). I want to emphasise that there is no 10 per cent. rule. The income tariff is a simple method of calculating the contribution that people are expected to make to help to meet their living costs. Some 80 per cent. of pension credit recipients are unaffected by what is called the income tariff. The rules have been in place since 1988, but the Government have tried to make the system more generous than it was. Under the previous system, anyone with savings above £12,000 was not eligible for any support at all. The less generous rules also assumed £1 a week for every £2.50 of savings. Not only is the rate of tariff income half of the previous rate, we have abolished the upper capital limit, which gives more people access to more support.
	The hon. Member for North-East Hertfordshire, among others, raised the issue of carers allowance. As I said, as we work towards reforming the benefits system we will consider how we can best support carers in line with the principles outlined in the carers strategy.
	The hon. Member for Edinburgh, West talked about the fact that inflation was very and asked what would happen next year. Decisions on uprating for 2020-11 will be made later in the year, but the Government have already made a commitment to increasing the basic state pension by at least 2.5 per cent. Should inflation fall to a negative figure next year, I can assure the House that we would not be looking to reduce current benefit levels.
	A number of hon. Members touched on the question of trying to increase pensioner take-up. I said during my speech that there were a number of areas in which we wanted to see how we could improve take-up, and we will continue to do so.
	On benefit fraud and error, I reassure the House that we have an error strategy and that we are constantly considering ways to ensure that errors are not made. As I said earlier, I have tabled a statement to apologise for the fact that two types of error have been made, but we certainly try to minimise them. The estimated level of overpayment due to fraud and error across all benefits is at 2 per cent., the lowest ever, and we are bringing it down. There has been a great deal of consensus that personal accounts and auto-enrolment are the right way forward, and we certainly want to ensure that they start in 2012.
	I turn to the rate of pensioner inflation, as I believe it is called. It is true that a report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies on the inflation experiences of older households, published in October, suggested that in August 2008 pensioners were experiencing inflation of 7.4 per cent., or about 9 per cent. in the case of the oldest and poorest pensioners. However, it is important to point out that it is also stressed that in the long term average inflation is almost identical for pensioners and non-pensioners. It showed also that pension credit is worth about £430 a year than it would have been if it had been uprated since 2001 according to the inflation index used in the report. Similar figures show that the state pension is currently £340 a year more than if it had been uprated according to the inflation figures given in the report since 1987.